WinUAE - Amiga Emulator Forum

A day or so ago, I installed WinUAE (actually an application that depends on it) in CrossOver 11. It worked very well. However, I needed to delete my bottle and start over. However, when I went to reinstall it, I found that the CrossTie was gone. I have no idea why that happened. I was starting to think I imagined finding the CrossTie except that I see forum posts regarding the old C4P file.

I'm hoping it will return soon.

Bob

...it is still online, you can still download it from..

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=1713

..else, you need to go into crossover preferences, and check the
'include entries for untested or known-not-to-work software' ; if
WinUAE is working for you, consider sumbitting a medal ranking
against cx11/your platform...

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Thanks for the quick response. I do not know how that got unchecked.

I am actually running Cloanto's Amiga Forever product. However, as near as I can tell, it adds a menu on top of WinUAE to make it easier to just play the games. From the CD, it's running WinUAE 2.3.3.1. I am running CrossOver XI. In CrossOver Games 10, Amiga Forever would fail badly if you ran the game in fullscreen mode. CrossOver XI has no problems doing that.

I am having problems installing Amiga Forever since the msi file gives a weird error. I have downloaded a utility to convert the msi file to an exe file to see if that works better. Right now, I have to use the option to play the games directly from the DVD. However, not surprisingly, the games load much slower from the DVD and I cannot save a high score.

As soon as I can get the program to install to my hard disk, I think I will be very happy with it. When I can get it installed on my iMac's hard drive, I would be happy to add a medal rating.

Bob C

Bob Carpenter wrote:

Thanks for the quick response. I do not know how that got unchecked.

I am actually running Cloanto's Amiga Forever product. However, as
near as I can tell, it adds a menu on top of WinUAE to make it
easier to just play the games. From the CD, it's running WinUAE
2.3.3.1. I am running CrossOver XI. In CrossOver Games 10, Amiga
Forever would fail badly if you ran the game in fullscreen mode.
CrossOver XI has no problems doing that.

I am having problems installing Amiga Forever since the msi file
gives a weird error. I have downloaded a utility to convert the msi
file to an exe file to see if that works better. Right now, I have
to use the option to play the games directly from the DVD. However,
not surprisingly, the games load much slower from the DVD and I
cannot save a high score.

As soon as I can get the program to install to my hard disk, I think
I will be very happy with it. When I can get it installed on my
iMac's hard drive, I would be happy to add a medal rating.

Bob C

...umm...you don't actually need the installer as such, you can just
copy the files from the CD into a directory, and change the amigaOS
assigns in 'startup-sequence', and I think there's a couple of things
to change in 'user-startup' as well ; you set this directory up as
hdrive image/mount-point in winuae config, and boot from that directory
as it were -- if I can lay my hands on my Cloanto disk (lost here
somewhere), I could give you a blow by blow...but if you know amigaOS
just look at the startup scripts on the CD, and change them to suit...

...thanks also for (coincidentally) reminding me to look at this again.
It's been broken in linux for some time, but I was able to get it to
run in cx11 just now, and it's running better than it was..

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I only owned an Amiga 600 for a short time. I was an ST owner back in the day. Don't worry, I'm not looking to restart any 20 year old flame wars. 😀

However, I do have Amiga Forever installed under VMWare. I can look at that setup to see what I would need to change. As you might believe, Amiga Forever (really, WinUAE) is too slow under VMWare to really be any fun.

Thanks again for your help. I have been very impressed with how well the games play within CrossOver XI. The Amiga Forever window has problems (if you try to move it, the window jumps partially off screen on my Mac). However, that has nothing to do with the games themselves.

If I get it installed on my hard drive, I will have to put batteries back into my Magic Mouse. The Magic Trackpad is not the best way to get high scores in Megaball. 😋

Bob C

Bob Carpenter wrote:

I am having problems installing Amiga Forever since the msi file
gives a weird error.

...found my CD ; you might have some luck installing it like this..

• install winuae using the crosstie ...

• create a directory >inside< that bottle...ie; /path/to/winuae_bottle/drive_c/cloanto

• mount the cd and copy everything from the disc into that directory ..

• in the bottle manager, highlight this bottle -> install software -> select 'Other'
  and then 'choose installer directory' --> select the directory created above that
  you copied the disc contents into...

• now click Proceed to install .. this seemed to work fine here (choose the full install)

• wait for disc activity to finish ; the install will hang at the end (softdir.exe),
  but it does complete it's work ; once you are sure it's finished, click quit bottle
  (or force quit) to let cxinstaller finish out...

...that worked here without errors (caveat the hang at the end), and the menu entries
were generated etc, an AF/aplayer started up fine...

.....I still have 2 of my Amigas ; they both still work fine ...

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Thanks for the instructions. Unfortunately, when I try this on my Mac, I get an error that says "Please run the installer from the original Amiga Forever installation medium.". Since I am doing that (and also from the downloaded ISO or files copied from the DVD or downloaded ISO), there is another problem.

I have noticed that the Mac Finder goes berserk when I attempt to copy the "Amiga Files" folder. I need to copy the files from the command-line in order for the copy to complete. Anyway, this is down to a Mac-specific problem. If I copy the files from the ISO image to my hard drive, I can run Amiga Forever. Unfortunately, it still thinks it is running from a DVD.

Before finally giving up, I found the one portion of the Shared/dir/System/S/Startup-Sequence file where it tests if the media is read/write or not. I simply commented out the rest of the IF clause except where the AmigaForeverRWMedium environment variable gets set to TRUE. That fixed everything for me.

Thanks again for your help. Without your Amiga tips, I could not have gotten this to work in CrossOver. CrossOver XI runs the program just fine. It is too bad that the installation program gets in the way.

Bob C

Just tried installing using the CrossTie on CrossOver 11 under OS X Lion. The installation worked fine, and I get the initial options window when running WinUAE post-installation. However, while I get sound when I actually 'boot' the 'Amiga', I only get a black screen. I recall a similar problem being discussed in a different thread; was this problem ever resolved?

Will wrote:

Just tried installing using the CrossTie on CrossOver 11 under OS X
Lion. The installation worked fine, and I get the initial options
window when running WinUAE post-installation. However, while I get
sound when I actually 'boot' the 'Amiga', I only get a black screen.
I recall a similar problem being discussed in a different thread;
was this problem ever resolved?

..I just updated the crosstie in the interim of you using
the 'existing' crosstie -- the crosstie here, was installing
wineuae-2.3.0.0 ; I updated this in the tie to reflect the
revision increment wrt winuae -- in this thread discussion,
Bob is referring to wineuae-2.3.3.1 ; I tested winuae-2.3.3.0
(which is what is in the revised crosstie when it goes back
online ; please retest using the latest winuae installer,
just in case the problem is related to winuae version..

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Artist Formally Known as Dot wrote:

..I just updated the crosstie in the interim of you using
the 'existing' crosstie -- the crosstie here, was installing
wineuae-2.3.0.0 ; I updated this in the tie to reflect the
revision increment wrt winuae -- in this thread discussion,
Bob is referring to wineuae-2.3.3.1 ; I tested winuae-2.3.3.0
(which is what is in the revised crosstie when it goes back
online ; please retest using the latest winuae installer,
just in case the problem is related to winuae version..

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I've just tried this, and while it's definitely 2.3.3 (2011.09.18) that's been installed, the blank screen issue still persists. I should add that I haven't done anything to the graphics settings etc., so I may be missing something really obvious.

Will wrote:

Artist Formally Known as Dot wrote:

..I just updated the crosstie in the interim of you
using
the 'existing' crosstie -- the crosstie here, was installing
wineuae-2.3.0.0 ; I updated this in the tie to reflect the
revision increment wrt winuae -- in this thread discussion,
Bob is referring to wineuae-2.3.3.1 ; I tested winuae-2.3.3.0
(which is what is in the revised crosstie when it goes back
online ; please retest using the latest winuae installer,
just in case the problem is related to winuae version..

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I've just tried this, and while it's definitely 2.3.3 (2011.09.18)
that's been installed, the blank screen issue still persists. I
should add that I haven't done anything to the graphics settings
etc., so I may be missing something really obvious.

I am not that familiar with WinUAE, but I am wondering if you have it starting in fullscreen mode. I know I had to turn off hardware acceleration for fullscreen mode. Otherwise, I got either a black or garbage screen when I went into fullscreen. If it is in a window, did you try minimizing the window and bring the window back up. Occasionally, I have found problems where I need to redraw the window. However, most of that is related to my use of Amiga Forever rather than simply WinUAE.

If none of this helps you, you'll need to wait for ©.

Bob C

Will wrote:

I've just tried this, and while it's definitely 2.3.3 (2011.09.18)
that's been installed, the blank screen issue still persists. I
should add that I haven't done anything to the graphics settings
etc., so I may be missing something really obvious.

...if Bob's (good) observatons/suggestions bring you no joy..

• the issue you describe is akin to what was breaking in
  linux - the emulator itself was running, it simply couldn't
  update/refresh the screen/window...

• the other comments in the forum here, relate to the 'old'
  work-around as it were ; the winuae code has evolved considerably
  since that time, and that info is likely no longer applicable..

..2 other things (in addition to that Bob has already mentioned)
to alter/check in the winuae config GUI, may have a bearing
on how the emulator behaves on your setup ;

• in Display -> Screen (top section) of the winuae GUI, you can alter/disable display buffering .. futz with it

• in Miscellaneous -> Miscellaneous Options, you'll see a toggle widget for Graphics API: , it defaults to directdraw, try direct3d

..keep us posted...

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Firstly, thank you, gentlemen - although none of the suggestions did the trick as such, they led to the answer.

Secondly, it's embarrassingly straightforward. The CrossTie enables the virtual desktop by default. When WinUAE wouldn't display anything, I disabled the VD because it didn't seem to achieve anything. Taking the cue from Bob's suggestion, I tried enabling fullscreen mode. I got a largely black screen, with grey lines moving up it - but in those lines, I could see the KS 1.3 disk/hand. I re-enabled the VD, and started WinUAE in fullscreen mode - and it now displays correctly.

This does seem to mean that WinUAE can't be used in windowed mode, but there are worse things in life.

Thank you again!

Will wrote:

Firstly, thank you, gentlemen - although none of the suggestions did
the trick as such, they led to the answer.

Secondly, it's embarrassingly straightforward. The CrossTie enables
the virtual desktop by default. When WinUAE wouldn't display
anything, I disabled the VD because it didn't seem to achieve
anything. Taking the cue from Bob's suggestion, I tried enabling
fullscreen mode. I got a largely black screen, with grey lines
moving up it - but in those lines, I could see the KS 1.3 disk/hand.
I re-enabled the VD, and started WinUAE in fullscreen mode - and it
now displays correctly.

This does seem to mean that WinUAE can't be used in windowed mode,
but there are worse things in life.

Thank you again!

That would be strange if WinUAE doesn't work in windowed mode. I only say this because I am running a lot of the games in Amiga Forever in windowed mode because they do not look right in fullscreen mode. Since AF is built on top of WinUAE, I would have expected to have the same problem that you have. However, it is good that you are not completely stuck anymore.

Bob C

How to solve the black screen problem?

I just installed Amiga Forever 2012 & C64 Forever 2012 using the *.msi file.
Works fine, also the updates are working, GUI is working, but if I start something I only have a black screen.