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I agree with Rob.. until Linux is capable of running all the major apps there really wont be that much a drum role from most folks out there in the private sector. People dont want limitations. They want to be able to do anything they want with their computers when they want and how they want using what program they decide to use. Its what drives the market. You give the customer what they want or they go elsewhere.

this should be here:

This discussion is one that goes on for almost any app on windows, and why the poor windows users will NEVER switch to linux. (At least according to Bill Almighty) Fact: For almost all Windows Apps ther is a Linux equivilant that is a WHOLE bunch cheaper. (Just the other day I found Audacity, on my Suse CD, and it is every bit as good as something you'd have to pay 300-400 dollars for in windows.
The problem is people try linux out, they see the start button in the corner and they assume it is like windows, when they find out its not, they get mad after three days or a week and give up (I did the same thing at first). For the few of us that press on, we find that linux is an eperience all its own. It has great strengths and minimal weeknesses. I'm on my 3rd year of linux and about 2 months ago, I got rid of my windows partition all together. I must say I have not missed it at all. Linux is like swimming, you have to be completely in the water to get anywhere with it. Dipping a toe in here or there is not going to get it done.
yes there is the odd app that I need to run (mostly because its what they use at work) for that there is crossover. for everything else, I have found something on my CD or by Googling. It's hard for me to imagine ever going back to windows.

One more thing and then I am gone -- Remeber this -- Windows is changing their kernel, this means all the apps you know and love will cease to function when longhorn is released in 2006. What are the Nero (an other software) dependent people going to do then? If they are inteligent they will make the switch to Linux, if not they have to pony up the thousands of dollars it will take to replace all their stuff with new versions, and kiss their legacy apps good-bye.

CD burning in Linux has been better than Windows for ages. If CD creation and burning is what you desire, Linux does it better and doesn't require that you pay. Use google and pick any number of apps.

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yeah your right .. they will pony up the cash and the consumers will
continue to buy windows. Mainly because there is no guessing game.
No need to search on google for an app that does what you want. Its
all in black and white. Therefore linux will stay in the shadows for most
people and the staunch attitude of the linux community as it stands for
windows support will keep the big bad Bill Gates on the top rung of the
economic ladder. I do run linux and have for a very long time. I have administrated unix servers for longer than most people have owned a computer. Yet in all this time with the obvious advantages of the unix/linux operating systems we still havent even begun to touch the
private sector market share. People will not hunt google folks. They want it handed to them. You are correct there are great apps for linux but people dont know about them because of poor marketing. What you say.. oh but they advertise in linux mags and websites... that is not thorough or potent marketing by any stretch of the imagination. The fact is most people wont switch because they dont want to bother with the inconvenience that the ineptitude of the nix community concerning just standard information about what programs are the best to do what they want to do is not readily available. Reviews, advertisements, web banners on shopping sites, .. oh yeah this does take money but then if it is such a good program the support for such a thing shouldnt be difficult to come by... the revenues gained by the supporting corporation will more than pay off their boon to the programmer and they know this. Its one of the big reasons why Red hat is the best known OS for linux.. because of their corporate support and ownership. I think it is time for the rest of the community to get a clue

No Argument from me -- That is the DIS-advantage to the whole open source market. If you can't make money off it, you can't pay for marketing. (We won't go into how gates stole dos, and then mac's gui) It is the marketing, and the illegal deals that M$ has made with hadware manufacurers that keeps windows in the forefront of private sector computing. As well as linux from being well known to the average consumer.
Unfortunately Red Hat (as far as the desktop, and therefore the the private sector) is no more. Perhaps now wilth Novell behind Suse, it will make some moves. Unfortunately, Novell is hardly a known factor to the average windows user. I think what we really need in linux is for a couple big name apps to make a linux version, AND make a BIG DEAL about it. Could you image what would happen if on every AOL comercial they said "Now available for a Safe Relable OS -- Linux" or Macromedia, Adobe or Corel Made a REAL forray into linux, along with the appropriate marketing. Suddenly Linux would not seem so unuseable any more. People would still have to shell out the dollars for the app, but hey, the OS is free.
This is where I think the anti-WINE people make a valid point, No software manufacturer will waste their time with a second version if they know one will do. What we really need is for the linux community to pick an app that has no REAL linux counter part, and start to barage that company for a linux version (Corel Draw, QuickBooks, Dreamwaver, etc). Then when it comes out -- everybody go buy it. Let's start putting our money where our mouth is and get the attention of some software vendors.

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