Lord of the Rings Online Forum

Hi all,

I have just got CrossOver Games to try and play LOTRO on my Mac.
The guides i've seen to get it to play on a Mac with CrossOver Games it seems I have to install the game afresh - is this correct?

I have the game installed on a Windows 7 partition so can I just use this install with CrossOver Games?

If so could anyone tell me how at all?

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards,

Andy

Hello Andy, yes, you need an installer of LOTRO first. You can use the same one you used for your Windows7 installation, just run the C4P file from here and point it to the installer. The C4P file will install not only the game but also the pyLotRO, the startup utility you need to use instead of the lotroclient.exe file you use on Windows to start the game.
If your Windows 7 version of the game is up to date (ie. you went through the installation progress), you can make your life easier and after a successful installation, replace the big game files (client_gamelogic.dat and such) in your Mac installation with your Windows 7 files. This will save you some time and bandwidth. After you're ready with the installation and copying

• run the pyLotRO
• in Tools / Options check that pyLotRO knows the directory where the game is installed
• start the patching process with Tools / Patch and pressing Start in the following window. Then the update/patching progress should start. Just be sure you run it several time in order to be sure you have all game files up to date. After the successful patching, the output should look like this:

Connecting to 94.75.194.24:5015

checking data...
data patches: 0 bytes to download: 0
unlock: 0 empty: 0
result code: 0x00000001
Patching data:

Finished

The just Exit the patching window and log into the game.

Good luck!

Martin

Hi there,

Thank you very much for your kind response.
Just one (newb) question but when you say right at the start 'point it to the installer' what exactly do you mean?
Is this a file within my Windows 7 directory where I have installed LOTRO?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kind regards,

Hello,
in my experience, you need a standalone LOTRO installer and need to install the game from scratch. For the EU version of the game, you can check http://community.codemasters.com/forum/newbie-area-861/172760-where-download-game-list-game-download-locations-updated-01-11-10-a.html for the download links, please consult forums.lotro.com if you need US version.
Once you have installed the game, you can copy the large data files from your updated windows installation to avoid the need of downloading a lot of update during the patching process
Have fun!

Andy wrote:

Thank you very much for your kind response.
Just one (newb) question but when you say right at the start 'point
it to the installer' what exactly do you mean?
Is this a file within my Windows 7 directory where I have installed
LOTRO?

When you launch the C4P installer, it will ask you WHERE the installer is located. "Navigate to that file, and select it," is what is ment by "point it to the installer."

HOWEVER... If you installed LOTRO under Windows using the Turbine on-line installer (as opposed to from CD), it will not work. Turbine's present on-line installer uses Pando, which is NOT compatible with WINE, and hence with CXG.

Go to the Tips and Tricks section and download one of the complete game files... they are big! some 4GB, so the download will take a while to "forever," depending on your line speed.

Andy wrote:

I have just got CrossOver Games to try and play LOTRO on my Mac.
The guides i've seen to get it to play on a Mac with CrossOver Games
it seems I have to install the game afresh - is this correct?

I have the game installed on a Windows 7 partition so can I just use
this install with CrossOver Games?

Yes ... I'm assuming you mean you have a BootCamp partition on the same hard disk ...

CXG uses the following path:

<you>/Library/Application Support/CrossOver Games/bottles/<your bottle>

SO... do the following:
1- Install CXG
2- create a bottle, (call it say, LOTRO)
3- ignore the full C4P install found on the main forum page, instead install PyLotRO using the C4P here...
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=6292
4- now comes the fun .... launch terminal.
5- navigate to the bottle: (cd = Change Directory)
cd "Library/Application Support/CrossOver Games/bottles/LOTRO"
NOTE: include the quotes. My example assumes you called your bottle: LOTRO
6- navigate downwards: "cd drive_c/Program Files"
7- use "ls" to find the location of your Windows 7 partition.
(I don't have boot camp installed, so I'm guessing here)
it should be something like "/Volumes/<xxx>/drive_c/Program Files/Turbine/The Lord of the Rings Online"
8- then link this to the CXG Bottle:

ln -s "/Volumes/<xxx>/drive_c/Program Files/Turbine" .

Note: quotes before / and after Turbine, followed by 1 space followed by a period

9- Now if you do ls -als, you should see something like:

0 drwxr-xr-x 7 magill magill 238 Dec 24 00:34 .
0 drwxr-xr-x 6 magill magill 204 Dec 24 00:13 ..
0 drwxr-xr-x 3 magill magill 102 Dec 24 01:03 Common Files
0 drwxr-xr-x 3 magill magill 102 Dec 24 00:13 Internet Explorer
0 drwxr-xr-x 3 magill magill 102 Dec 24 00:13 Netscape
0 drwxr-xr-x 33 magill magill 1122 Dec 25 18:22 PyLotRO
0 drwxr-xr-x 3 magill magill 102 Dec 24 00:34 Turbine ->/Volumes/<xxx>/drive_c/Program Files/Turbine

10- launch CXG and PyLotRO
11- point PyLotRO to the game file (via the tools/settings wizard)
12- patch if necessary, and you should be good to go.

Misc note: You may or may not need to do any of the "tweeks" in Tips and Tricks. Most likely editing the Register to use OpenGL.
Also note that CXG uses WINE, and the experience is therefore "different" than running Windows under BootCamp.

Just trying this rather than a new install as I've had a weird graphic problem caused by a custom UI.

Need to point out that the CrossTie installation of PYLotRO does not install DirectX or the C+ distributions that I had in the old LOTRO folder, so these will need to be installed separately.

Have to pop out for a while now, I'll check back later and update this thread with my progress.

Good tip if it works though William.

Richard, I just downloaded the full Free to Play client (Yes, it's available now) and used the TIE file... and it DID install PyLOTRO & DX Modern.

you should not be installing PyLOTRO by itself. the LOTRO TIE installs everything you need.

Harry Davis wrote:

Richard, I just downloaded the full Free to Play client (Yes, it's
available now) and used the TIE file... and it DID install PyLOTRO
& DX Modern.

you should not be installing PyLOTRO by itself. the LOTRO TIE
installs everything you need.

Thanks for the heads up, I have got the EU MoM disks which I usually install from and patch, so was ideally looking for a quicker way and if I can save having to lose 12gb of drive space for the Mac install all the better.

Good to know that the Tie install option works so well as anything that makes it easier can only be good for LOTRO and Codeweavers.

Back from Hospital now though so I'll continue my fiddling.

Richard Baker wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, I have got the EU MoM disks which I usually
install from and patch, so was ideally looking for a quicker way and
if I can save having to lose 12gb of drive space for the Mac install
all the better.

Good to know that the Tie install option works so well as anything
that makes it easier can only be good for LOTRO and Codeweavers.

Back from Hospital now though so I'll continue my fiddling.

Ooh, I should clarify... the US/NA full install is finally available. :) I understand the EU version has been around for a while.

There's no "quicker" way. :) You could reinstall from the MoM disks, and spend an eternity letting it self-patch. Or you could find the F2P client, and spend an eternity downloading that. (Although, the MoM disks don't involve eating 12 GB of compressed install images)

Enjoy the fiddle! ;)

Richard Baker wrote:

Just trying this rather than a new install as I've had a weird
graphic problem caused by a custom UI.

Which kind... a skin or lua... there were MAJOR issues with both following the November 2010 LOTRO update. Virtually all LUAs broke because of changes to the api -- and only a couple of them have been patched to run, although others claimed to have been patched to run. I haven't run the skins for ages as they really didn't suit my style, so I don't know what happened to them following that update.

Need to point out that the CrossTie installation of PYLotRO does not
install DirectX or the C+ distributions that I had in the old LOTRO
folder, so these will need to be installed separately.

That is correct, PyLotRO by itself does not install those two items.

Since you are/were planning to run with a Windows installed version of LOTRO, I assume(d) that those files were already installed in the Turbine directory.

I would first run without separately installing them, and if things work, then forget it.
As I recall, from the tips and tricks section, the directX files install into the Turbine directory. Off hand, I don't recall if the C+ files need to be there or where.

If they don't work, then use the info in the tips and tricks section to install the Direct X... The C+ can be installed from the CXG installer in the bottle. (I don't recall off hand if the DirectX can be installed from that pulldown also or not. I'm not at the computer with CXG installed.)

William H. Magill wrote:

Richard Baker wrote:

Just trying this rather than a new install as I've had
a weird graphic problem caused by a custom UI.

Which kind... a skin or lua... there were MAJOR issues with both
following the November 2010 LOTRO update. Virtually all LUAs broke
because of changes to the api -- and only a couple of them have been
patched to run, although others claimed to have been patched to run.
I haven't run the skins for ages as they really didn't suit my
style, so I don't know what happened to them following that update.

This might sound more complicated than it is as there was a chain of events that led to it, but here goes.

For the last few releases of CXG I have been unable to alt/tab out of the game, which is a pain if I'm crafting or decide I need to load up Ventrilo etc. I can get around the problem by switching to windowed mode but this leads to....

I use Daimon Mini UI, which works fine if you have 1680 x 1050 resolution, but the layout gets irretrievably broken if you switch to window mode, so I thought I would.......

I used my Bootcamp partition to configure a Daimon Mini to work at 1680 x 1028, which means I can run in windowed mode but nearly full screen and not have to change my layout when I switch to Windows/CXG. However this didn't work, but for some reason I was stuck in 1680 x 1028 mode, even if I selected 1680 x 1050 full screen. There was a black bar at the bottom of the screen, and the mouse was 22 pixels out, for example I couldn't click buttons/icons near the top. (Hope that makes sense). I tried a few things but then thought it would be easier to reinstall than fiddle any more :)

Back to the present however, and the link idea didn't work. PYLotRO loads and patches (or checks for patches at least) and accepts my user name and password, I then get a blank screen. I tried installing Direct X Modern but that made no difference, and I then tried to install the latest C+ distributable, but I then go straight from PYLotRO to the PYLotRO EXIT/SAVE/CANCEL screen.

Deleted the bottle and about to start again to see if I can sort it out :)

Thanks for the help so far.

EDIT

Remembered that I originally had the C++ 2005 Redistributable in my original install, I usually use the MoM European disk set to run. Followed the above instructions and put Direct X Modern and the 2005 C++ in and it worked, still have the weird resolution problem though, so I'm going to completely uninstall CXG and reinstall from there, following the tip and trick about the plist too :).

EDIT No2

Removed CXG, reinstalled, followed the instructions above and added Direct X and C++ 2005, loaded game, switched to 1680 x 1050 res and the problem is still there.

Thinking that I must have altered some file on the windows side within the LotRO directory when I ran the batch file to try and customise the UI, but I'm at a loss to explain why it only effects CXG and not when I play on Bootcamp side. I've removed the folder ~/Documents/The Lord of the Rings Online, which as far as I know is the only place that should hold settings to be saved by the program.