Internet Explorer 6 Forum

I have no issues with getting IE6 to work on a 98 bottle but fall on my face when it comes to installing it on an XP bottle. Anyone out there get this to work?

I was unable to "auto" install. Instead, I downloaded the file to my local hard drive from here:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6sp1/finrel/6_sp1/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US/ie6setup.exe

If you prefer, start here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?DisplayLang=en&FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6

Next, use "advanced" install so that you can choose the file to install.

When I did this, at least it did not fail during the installation that I could see. I could not find it to run, however.... but a program that required it to run did then install and run.

It will not work in an XP bottle right now. There is no point in trying to running in an XP bottle. It runs as good as it can right now in an Win98 bottle.

Jeremy Newman wrote:

It will not work in an XP bottle right now. There is no point in
trying to running in an XP bottle. It runs as good as it can right
now in an Win98 bottle.

It neither works in a WIn2000 bottle, nor does IE5.5, thus CO is useless for me, unfortunately.

Why might I ask are you trying to run in a Win2000/XP bottle? Do you have a IE ActiveX control or plugin that requires something higher than Win98? If all you need is basic IE6 functionality then a Win98 bottle should be fine.

I'm also trying to run IE in a Windows XP bottle. In my case, I need it soley to import S/MIME certificates into Outlook 2003. Unfortunately, the functionality to import that is only available in IE and Outlook 2003 won't run in a Win98 bottle (unless you have some way I'm not aware of.)

Jeremy Newman wrote:

Why might I ask are you trying to run in a Win2000/XP bottle? Do you
have a IE ActiveX control or plugin that requires something higher
than Win98? If all you need is basic IE6 functionality then a Win98
bottle should be fine.

Hi,
the installation of CorelDraw X3 for example requires Win2000/XP with IE installed. Is there any possibility to install such an application?

Best regards,
Max.

For Apps that require IE, I recommend you try installing our "CrossOver HTML Engine", it is the shared IE libs that apps need, just without the hassle of installing IE.

We use it for things like Outlook 2003 and Steam. Both require IE, but we ship a modified Mozilla renderer in place of the normal MSHTML dlls. It works very well actually for most things.

Hi Jeremy,

I try to install coreldraw x3 with crossover html engine on mac, but not install. The application require IE 6 installed, but i cant install ie6 on xp or 2000 bottle. Any sugestion?

Thanks a lot.

Jeremy Newman wrote:

Why might I ask are you trying to run in a Win2000/XP bottle? Do you
have a IE ActiveX control or plugin that requires something higher
than Win98? If all you need is basic IE6 functionality then a Win98
bottle should be fine.

Why, instead of providing support, are you telling your users that their needs are illegitimate?

Just today, I tried to run Quality Center (an active X control from HP, which I'm required to use for a client). However, the Active X control uses the ATL71.dll for UNICODE, whereas the ATL71.dll that works with Win98 is ANSI only. You can't run the required dll in the Win98 bottle.

We, your customers, have good reasons for needing this long overdue support for a modern Windows version. Instead of telling us your HTML rendering engine kit is "good enough for most purposes" --as if you thought we were all kiddies that only wanted to see Web pages (woooh).

Why is a working Win98 bottle even a target, or considered any kind of achievement for running IE 6? That's seven (7) year old Windows technology.

More of your customers than you think bought CrossOver in order to be able to work in business environments while still holding on to our beloved, and useful Macs. Working in a business environment means active x controls, .NET framework capabilities, etc.

What's wrong with us requesting this basic level of support for our investment?

Kristofer Widholm wrote:

Jeremy Newman wrote:

Why might I ask are you trying to run in a Win2000/XP
bottle? Do you have a IE ActiveX control or plugin that requires
something higher than Win98? If all you need is basic IE6
functionality then a Win98 bottle should be fine.

Why, instead of providing support, are you telling your users that
their needs are illegitimate?

I don't read Jeremy's post as telling you that your needs are illegitimate. He was just trying to assess your needs.

Also, these forums are not our official system for providing support. Please use the ticket system for that.

Just today, I tried to run Quality Center (an active X control from
HP, which I'm required to use for a client). However, the Active X
control uses the ATL71.dll for UNICODE, whereas the ATL71.dll that
works with Win98 is ANSI only. You can't run the required dll in the
Win98 bottle.

Thanks you for providing that information. It helps to illuminate the problem for us.

We, your customers, have good reasons for needing this long
overdue support for a modern Windows version. Instead of telling us
your HTML rendering engine kit is "good enough for most purposes"
--as if you thought we were all kiddies that only wanted to see Web
pages (woooh).

Why is a working Win98 bottle even a target, or considered any kind
of achievement for running IE 6? That's seven (7) year old Windows
technology.

More of your customers than you think bought CrossOver in order to
be able to work in business environments while still holding on to
our beloved, and useful Macs. Working in a business environment
means active x controls, .NET framework capabilities, etc.

What's wrong with us requesting this basic level of support for our
investment?

Nothing is wrong with requesting it. However, it's not as basic as you imagine.

Here's an example of the nature of the problem: Microsoft's IE6 installer assumes, when it detects a Windows XP system, that IEXPLORE.EXE is already present on the system. Furthermore, it assumes that the version of that program that's on the system is current with respect to the version that IE6 would be installing if it were absent. So, the installer just plain doesn't install IEXPLORE.EXE!

That's a hard problem for us to work around. Reimplementing Windows is a big job. Reimplementing the applications that run on top of it, too, would be even bigger. For the most part, we aren't going to go down that road.

That's not to say that there's no potential solution that we can work toward. While we're not yet close to being able to run IE7, that at least would probably not suffer from the same problem where the installer assumes a bunch of components are already on the system. I know this probably isn't a satisfying answer for you, but we continue to work toward the day when we can provide compatibility with a more modern IE.

Just as an FYI - Quicken 2008 requires IE 6 or higher as well for Internet access (e.g. paying bills on line, downloading transactions, etc.). I can install Quicken 2008 in an XP bottle and it works, but it won't let me download any statements without IE support.

If there's some way to install IE 6 or higher in an XP or Win2K bottle, I would be very happy (note that Quicken 2008 will not install in a Win98 bottle as the current version of Quicken requires Win2K or higher.

I'm in the same boat with regards to Quicken requiring IE. Any work arounds for getting that to run would be awesome.

Dave

Jeremy Newman wrote:

Why might I ask are you trying to run in a Win2000/XP bottle? Do you
have a IE ActiveX control or plugin that requires something higher
than Win98? If all you need is basic IE6 functionality then a Win98
bottle should be fine.

I did some digging on a different app (Lord of the Rings Online), and I think I'm having the same issue.

The ugly details are under that app's forum (Mono and gdiplus.dll) so I won't go into detail here.

The game's system requirements include Win XP, IE6, DX 9.0c and .NET 1.1. I think I've addressed them all, but the launcher (which does launch now!) seems to complain about ActiveX not being installed.

so, that's why I "need" it :)

I also have this issue, I am trying to get an IE6 ActiveX control, that uses MS MQ on Windows 2000 working. Without being able to run IE 6 in at least a Windows 2000 bottle should be a high priority, as I have a large bank prepared to migrate to Linux on the desktop if IE functioned correctly in a Windows 2000 Bottle.

I have read reports of first creating a 98 bottle then converting it to a 2000 bottle, which is what I am planning to do. However my employer has an enterprise license to CO Pro, so will find out how easy it will be to log a ticket about this.

How to convert 98 bottle to 2000 bottle?