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Lots of varieties of Fallout, lots of different results

This weekend I unearthed my ancient Fallout CD, and decided to give it a try running under Crossover Games. (I'm on Crossover Games 10.1.2, on a newer Mac Mini with the GeForce 320M graphics card.) The installer refused to run in a Windows XP bottle, but installed just fine to a Windows 98 one. But the thing simply refuses to run; it crashes back to the desktop almost the instant you run it. I played around with lots of settings, virtual desktop sizes, upgrading it to the 1.1 patch, nothing makes any difference.

But, I tried installing the DOS version into DosBox, and that worked perfectly. Installs and runs smoothly. Unfortunately, the DOS version sacrifices some of the multimedia of the game to get it to fit into 640k; many characters who have spoken lines in the Windows version have nothing more than lines of text on the DOS one. :(

After reading on the forums how many folks have successfully installed and run the game on Crossover, I went ahead and purchased the game off of Steam to see if that would work. And voila, it runs immediately! And all the voice acting is there, just as I remember it.

On the other hand, I can see what people are saying about the mouse speed. Under DosBox, the mouse moves quickly and easily over the hex grid, but in the Windows version the movement over the grid is somewhat ungainly. Still usable, though -- I don't think it's unplayable, from what I see so far -- but much easier under DOS. Unfortunately, I don't think Steam provides the DOS version of the game, so I can't tell if it's a difference between the ancient copy from my CD and the presumably newer one from Steam. Maybe if I could get my ancient Windows version to work...

In any case, just a note on the many different results I'm getting from the many different versions of this game.

Hi,

I think you'll find the majority of folks are using the GOG.com
version, but it's good to know the Steam release works as well...

..the original CD release is quite possibly protected by disc based
DRM (copy protection) -- as the Apple scsi driver is what it is,
most all disc based DRM systems do not work in MacOS...

...the DOS version wouldn't be that, but, subject to it's own
setup particulars -- I don't have the DOS version of this title, but
I can imagine what you would need to do, based on other DOS games
I have mucked around with ; an installation of some ancient version
of quicktime perhaps, old video codecs, stuff like this...

..the mouse jerkiness has to do with the age of the game, and how
they coded things back then ... afaik there's not a lot (if anything)
you can do about that...

Cheers!

It was my impression that the galling mouse issues plaguing both this and Fallout 2 are from a bug in WINE (Bug 6033), and you can get around this by changing your desktop resolution to thousands of colours (16 bpp).

Interesting! It's too bad that Apple has stopped letting users change their color depth; 24 bit is apparently the only option allowed on OS X now. :(

I read through the comments in the WineHQ bugzilla entry for 6033, and from what I gather, the reason why the game seems playable for some and not for others is that faster hardware seems to make up a bit for the slowdown caused by the bug. Which may be why I'm not seeing this as a game-stopping problem...

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