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Hey

I've got a macbook:

  MacBook4,1  
Intel Core 2 Duo  
2,4 GHz  

And i've got crossover 8.0. I've installed steam and run cs 1.6 smoothly, but when i started playing css it went wrong. When it was installed i lauched it and connected a server. After few mins playing it just frozen. My options is Command Q or press the power buttom on my mac. Any ideas what is wrong?

Thanks!

The System requirements of CSS and CS 1.6 are different.

May i know what is your graphic card model..

There could be various reasons behind the 'freezing' of CSS ..Could you , perhaps , give a more detailed description of the error?

Sure.

The error: When i start css (just fine) and enter a server then after few mins or sec it freeze more detail can't i give about the error.

My Graphic card:

Intel GMA X3100:
Chipset Model: GMA X3100
Type: GPU
Bus: Built
VRAM (Total): 144 MB
Manufacturer: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x2a02
Revision ID: 0x0003

Enough details ?

Does it freeze when you create your own server and play with bots? Or is it just when you play online?

It's when i play online.

And i should i've tried putting the graphic down as possible but no succes. Also got it on 4:3 not widescreen

Hi,

Stefan D. wrote;

"[i]The Intel drivers on OSX suck, like they do on Windows and Linux. The cards themselves probably aren't that bad. They are much slower than geforce 9400m. The problem is that the OSX drivers for the intel cards have many bugs that lead to game crashes and even full system crashes.

As for performance: In a crowded server(20+ players), dxlevel 95, high settings, 640x480 I get 4-5 fps on my macbook with a X3100. If I increase the resolution to 1280x900 I am sure I'd be down to 1 fps.

Dxlevel 81 and lowest settings should work much better on this gpu.[/i]"

cite: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=3379;forum=1;forumcurPos=50;msg=61445

That'll be what you're fighting -- the X3100 + 144mb vram isn't really cutting the mustard here,
and is really not a video chipset designed for games.

Hope this helps...

Cheers!

You can try really low direct x settings with launch options like -dxlevel 70 -dxlevel 60 or -dxlevel 50 and see if these ultralow settings make it any better. I forget what the minimum for online play is, fool around and I'm sure you will find it.

Okay, will try some other directx but i tried one. I typed in -dxlevel 81 -w 1280 -h 800 and after 10 sec playing it went wrong again. I'll try some lower?

the lowest minimum in Most CSS servers are dxlevel 70 ...or 80 in most servers...
But apart from that fact , i am quite sure there is another issue ( apart from the under powered graphic card issue) that causes the crash
It could be the driver.. It could be conflicting software ...It could be a error in CSS itself .

Does the crash only occur in one particular server ?
May i know what on what map in CSS do you play that the crash occurs on ? ..Or does it occur in every other map..
Do you use specially made skins ? or mods ? Anything like that may or may not create an error within CSS ..

Cheers..

I've tried 3 maps: hoejhus9 and a two jailbreaks servers (i was playing in hole 5 mins in the jailbreak server).
I've also tied reinstalled css but no succes.
And about the mods, i dont really think i do, cause i have not changed setting only graphic setting (i have put them down).

NB! WHen i play hoejhus9 it crash nearly instantly but in jailbreak i played for like 5 mins.

OKay i tried updated from 8.0 to 9.0 (crossover) and when i open up css it came with this SteamUI_DriverUnknown_Info. What then?!

qmmp53 wrote:

OKay i tried updated from 8.0 to 9.0 (crossover) and when i open up
css it came with this SteamUI_DriverUnknown_Info. What then?!

CXO is not designed for games and doesn't have all the games specific
tweaks CXG does -- this is likely what you're seeing here. Stick with
CXG for this...using CXO is just likely to create more issues...

So what is CXO and CXG exactly ?

Sorry...my loose speak...I tend to still refer to the
non-crossover games version as 'Crossover Office' and
hence 'CXO' -- Crossover Mac/Linux Standard/Pro is the
correct title here really. By 'CXG', I'm referring to
the 'Crossover Games' release...apols for any confusion ;)

Aha :) now i understand you! So you recommend me to buy CXG instead of using CXO ? Do you really think that is the issue ?

Got crossover games now and installed css and steam ect and it came with same messenge :

SteamUI_DriverUnknown_Info Your video card does not appear in our database. Consequently, you may or not be able to the play game with sufficient stability or performance. We would appreciate your help in ensuring that we have sufficient information to address your video card and driver in the future. By clicking the Upload Details button you will help us track which video cards are currently missing from our database.

Okay nice :) i can play css now but there is one two issues: It still says that it cant find my graphic card and suddenly i lag like hell! What is wrong?

Hi again,

My guess is the two errors are related -- the first, is probably a
'correct error' ... it (the game code) really has no idea what your
videocard is -- that said, it probably might not be detecting your
videoram correctly (144mb is an odd size). The only way I know around
that, would be to add the following registry key with regedit;

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]
"DirectDrawRenderer"="gdi"
"OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo"
"RenderTargetLockMode"="auto"
"UseGLSL"="enable"
"VideoMemorySize"="144"

*Note: Have a look at the following page for explanations of the values;

http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys

Even after all this, 144mb is not a lot to play with -- I think you will
definitely need to fall back to the lowest dxlevel you can get away with,
you would need to lower your visual quality/effects levels and/or you will
probably need to reduce screensize resolution as well...ie; I would try
running it at 800x600 just to see if things improve -- if they do improve,
that's an indicator you're hitting the limits of your hardware at higher
settings...simple as that.

As far as the lagging goes...hard to say, if the game were running correctly
for you and it did this, I'd almost suspect the machine is overheating, but
that's hard to say when things aren't running properly to begin with 😉

Cheers!

Sounds good :) but once again, how do you make that regedit? never really heard that before;/ I saw your link but give me no clue ;( And thanks for all you helpful guys!

Eek!...regedit....essentially, the example above I've already
edited for your vram memory size - all the other keys are at
their default values. You can cut&paste that example into a
plaintext editor, and save the file as, say, d3dkeys.reg

Then, I think on the Mac you do the following;

Run Regedit (Programs -> Run Command -> Browse -> windows -> Regedit and Select your bottle)
When regedit starts, goto File->Import registry->and load the file you created above.

You can check is things went correctly, by using regedit itself
to browse to the following location (after you've imported the file);

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D

You should see that key and all the values listed in the example above.

Cheers!

Nice:)

My css now don't freeze and do only lag a little :)

Thank you!