Team Fortress 2 Forum

I have been messing about with this for hours and sort of have Team Fortress 2 running. Everything locks up if I try to change resolution in-game, or go between windowed and fullscreen mode - I have to power off the iMac and reboot. If I use command line options for fullscreen in any resolution other than the monitor's native res then the game appears half off the screen.

So by specifying:
-fullscreen -w 1920 -h 1200

..I get something approximating the experience under Boot Camp. Except that the frame rate is about half that of running Windows natively, and a large part of the ground is invisible! (And there's the issue with the chat text, as you know.)

If I run TF2 in a window at a lower res, with all the options dialed down, then the performance is acceptable, except that it's tiny and the ground is still invisible. (Steam also complains that the video drivers are out of date when I launch the game.)

Hope this helps!

If a full-screen game hangs or freezes, you should try Command-Option-Shift-R to force CrossOver to switch out of full-screen mode. If that doesn't work, you can try Command-Option-Esc, which is the hot-key for the Force Quit feature of Mac OS X. If your system is truly completely frozen, then that's a bug in the kernel or (more likely in this case) kernel-level software like the video drivers.

Each time Apple releases a new Mac with a new graphics chipset and driver, it potentially introduces new challenges for us. Unfortunately, many times it seems there are bugs in the drivers. In some cases, new features made available with the new chipsets activate parts of the code which had not been used on the Mac with earlier chipsets, and that exposes bugs in our software.

It's apparent that the new graphics chipsets and/or drivers in the new iMacs have some issues. We're in the process of trying to obtain one of them with which to test.

If you're willing to do some intensive and technical testing for us, that might help us get the issues resolved faster. Let us know and we'll make arrangements.

Sorry I missed your reply earlier.

I'd be happy to try some in-depth/technical testing. I'm reasonably techie and I'd love to never boot into Windows again :)

About a month has gone by. Did you get an iMac to test? :)

I did some tests for you and got an Activity Monitor sample report to send you ...but my e-mails to you are bouncing from your @codeweavers.com addresses:

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 13): 550 Unrouteable address

...mail seemed to send okay to you yesterday.

• Si

Yeah, sorry about that mail problem. Our servers were having mystery illnesses last week. Should be better now. Anyway, I got your email. Thanks.

I too have one of the new iMacs. I'd love to run crossover and replace bootcamp, but I am experiencing the same issues. I too would be willing to run some tests if it would help. Just send me an email with the details and I'll get right on it. Thanks!

And I should adjust what I said above. I am not having exactly the same issues as above, but I am only getting 15fps max with all the settings turned down. I posted a while ago when the newest version of crossover was released that supported tf2. I'm now running Leopard and there was no noticable improvement in performance.

Thanks again

Thanks for your offer. We now have an Aluminum iMac of our own to test with. So, we'll be working on getting TF2 to work properly on that model. However, if the driver bugs are too severe, we may not be able to find workarounds, and we'll just have to wait for fixes from Apple.

Hello. I just got my iMac 2.4. I downloaded crossover and have 79% of TF2. I am hoping it will be playable but from the above it isn't looking that hopeful. Is there any update on driver issues on the new iMacs with the HD 2600 256MB?

Download, install, steam install, login and updating has gone smoothly so far.

Thanks

Well I was able to get into TF2 on my 2nd try. I then changed the res to 1680 x 1050 and quit, removed the windowed command and re-opened it. I was able to play but the framerate is too low to be acceptable. Then when I went to quit, the game closed but I couldn't use my dock anymore. I was able to quit out of crossover but then when I tried to restart the mac because the dock was still not working it froze. I had to hold the power button down to turn it off.

Is there anything I can do to help with TF2 at this point or is it basically a wait and see if it gets better with patches?

Thanks for the help!

Did you make sure that HDR is disabled? Enabling HDR will kill performance, until Apple implements GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit support.

Also try playing in a window, I find it more playable and you still have fast access to anything else on your mac, like Steam messages from friends, which does not work at the moment.

I play in windows 1300*800 and it runs pretty good, yes I have all the graphics settings at their lowest but honestly I really do not see the difference when I am playing because I am just too busy with all the action.

Basically it is so playable and looks good that I deleted my bootcamp partition that played the game in full screen with high graphics.

FYI, it is also playable in full screen 1920*1200 but I like having access to my steam messages.

There is still much room for improvement compared to the level of detail I could play with boot camp... so do not slack on me now codeweavers ;) .