Dungeons & Dragons Online Forum

Okay, I tried installing DDO in the same bottle as LotRs, it to say the least, it didn't work...

I am on:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro4,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 12 GB

Using XCGs 9.0 ... it launches okay, but, after it loads it crashes back to desktop... with the error message that I posted before.

Any ideas?????

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Using XCGs 9.0 ... it launches okay, but, after it loads it crashes
back to desktop... with the error message that I posted before.

What error are you getting? At what stage does it crash to desktop, i.e. what is the last thing you see. Without information troubleshooting is impossible.

After the D&D splash screen shows, the game goes to a grey gridded display while it attempts to load the game, after-which it collapses to the desktop with this error message.

Program Error:en
The program dndclient.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
This can be caused by a problem in the program or deficiency in Wine. You may want to check http:...........

this was in the window....

1 0x452f7788 in msacm32 (+0x7787) (0x048dea88)
2 0x40781ad7 DriverCallback+0x224() in winmm (0x048deb08)
3 0x45ba5d69 CoreAudio_woAudioUnitIOProc+0x357() in winecoreaudio (0x048deb68)
4 0x45ba5f56 CoreAudio_woAudioUnitIOProc+0x544() in winecoreaudio (0x048deba8)
5 0x9780b92c __CFMessagePortPerform+0x21b() in corefoundation (0x048dec18)
6 0x9777716b in corefoundation (+0x3e16a) (0x048df548)
7 0x977750f4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific+0x1c3() in corefoundation (0x048df608)
8 0x9777b034 CFRunLoopRun+0x53() in corefoundation (0x048df658)
9 0x45ba51ad in winecoreaudio (+0x51ac) (0x048df698)
10 0x7bc5e46c call_thread_func+0xb() in ntdll (0x048df6b8)
11 0x7bc5f084 call_thread_entry_point+0x78() in ntdll (0x048df738)
12 0x7bc65f60 NtAlertThread+0x149() in ntdll (0x048dff88)
13 0x918f8a19 _pthread_start+0x158() in libsystem.b.dylib (0x048dffc8)
14 0x918f889e thread_start+0x21() in libsystem.b.dylib (0x048dffec)

Finished

One thought that occurred to me is that it may not like my video card thats in my Mac Pro (i.e. ATI Radeon HD 4870).... Beats me.... I am not even sure how to get updated device drivers for a Mac...

This error has to do with audio. It's specific to Macs because they have a different Wine audio driver than is used on Linux.

You can try to disable audio via the game's settings, if that's possible.

Alternatively, you can try disabling the winecoreaudio.drv library using the Wine Configuration (winecfg) control panel, accessible from the Manage Bottles window.

This should allow it to play. Of course, then you won't have audio in the game.

We have an entry for this bug in our bug tracker.

First, I can't even get to the options screen for DDO.

Second, when I try Winecfg on the Lotros bottle (since DDO is in its bottle) to select the "audio" tab it says: There is no audio driver specified in the registry. A recommended has been selected for you. You can use this driver or select another driver if available. You must click apply for the selection to take effect... at which I press ok button...

I get: Program Error

The program winecfg.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

This can be caused by a problem in the program or a deficiency in Wine. You may want to check..... etc.... I press close.... I end up having quit XCG....

You don't need to visit the Audio tab. Use the libraries tab to add an entry for winecoreaudio.drv and then set it to disabled.

Oh, also, you may investigate if DDO provides a way to disable sound without your having to visit its configuration GUI. For example, there might be a settings file you can edit, or a command-line option you can pass in on launch.

Okay, I made that addition or change.... and it crashed to desktop once again.

Same error message, but now with this data dump:

Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x05580538 in 32-bit code (0x463ecdf6).
Register dump:
 CS:0017 SS:001f DS:001f ES:001f FS:103f GS:0037
 EIP:463ecdf6 ESP:048de9c0 EBP:048dea08 EFLAGS:00010246(  R- --  I  Z- -P- )
 EAX:0558053c EBX:463ecc4c ECX:00000000 EDX:05580530
 ESI:05580530 EDI:04645dd0
Stack dump:
0x048de9c0:  00000037 0000604f 0558053c 04645dd0
0x048de9d0:  00000002 00000000 048dea00 463c8682
0x048de9e0:  04635e60 000003c0 463f3ca8 00000000
0x048de9f0:  0002245c 430fc094 048dea20 463c8682
0x048dea00:  04635e60 000003c0 048dea88 463c8788
0x048dea10:  0465245c 04635e60 463c8061 463c8788
0207: sel=103f base=81f90000 limit=00000fff 32-bit rw-
Backtrace:
=>0 0x463ecdf6 acmStreamConvert+0x1c3() in msacm32 (0x048dea08)
  1 0x463c8788 in msacm32 (+0x8787) (0x048dea88)
  2 0x4075dad7 DriverCallback+0x224() in winmm (0x048deb08)
  3 0x463a2d69 CoreAudio_woAudioUnitIOProc+0x357() in winecoreaudio (0x048deb68)
  4 0x463a2f56 CoreAudio_woAudioUnitIOProc+0x544() in winecoreaudio (0x048deba8)
  5 0x9210692c __CFMessagePortPerform+0x21b() in corefoundation (0x048dec18)
  6 0x9207216b in corefoundation (+0x3e16a) (0x048df548)
  7 0x920700f4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific+0x1c3() in corefoundation (0x048df608)
  8 0x92076034 CFRunLoopRun+0x53() in corefoundation (0x048df658)
  9 0x463a21ad in winecoreaudio (+0x21ac) (0x048df698)
  10 0x7bc5e46c call_thread_func+0xb() in ntdll (0x048df6b8)
  11 0x7bc5f084 call_thread_entry_point+0x78() in ntdll (0x048df738)
  12 0x7bc65f60 NtAlertThread+0x149() in ntdll (0x048dff88)
  13 0x94478a19 in imageio (+0x1eba18) (0x048dffc8)
  14 0x9447889e in imageio (+0x1eb89d) (0x048dffec)
0x463ecdf6 acmStreamConvert+0x1c3 in msacm32: movl    0x8(%edx),%eax
Modules:
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PE      350000-  362000    Deferred        zlib1t
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PE      3e0000-  3ec000    Deferred        twebbrowser
PE      400000-  e60000    Deferred        dndclient
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PE     2da0000- 340e000    Deferred        xul
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PE    18000000-18033000    Deferred        binkw32
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  \-PE    40610000-4063b000    \               rsaenh
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  \-PE    406e0000-40743000    \               rpcrt4
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  \-PE    40750000-407cc000    \               winmm
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  \-PE    407e0000-407f0000    \               imm32
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  \-PE    43460000-4346e000    \               openal32
PE    43473000-434a9000    Deferred        openal
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  \-PE    434b0000-434ee000    \               dsound
PE    434f1000-434fa000    Deferred        libsm.6.dylib
PE    434fa000-434fe000    Deferred        libxinerama.1.dylib
ELF    43600000-43796000    Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE    43610000-4378b000    \               shell32
ELF    43796000-437f3000    Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE    437a0000-437eb000    \               shlwapi
PE    437f3000-437f9000    Deferred        libxxf86vm.1.dylib
PE    437f9000-437fe000    Deferred        libxrandr.2.dylib
ELF    44000000-440d1000    Deferred        comctl32<elf>
  \-PE    44010000-440cb000    \               comctl32
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  \-PE    44150000-44167000    \               wsock32
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  \-PE    44170000-44193000    \               ws2_32
ELF    44196000-441b7000    Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>
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ELF    441b7000-441d1000    Deferred        version<elf>
  \-PE    441c0000-441cf000    \               version
PE    441d1000-44246000    Deferred        libfreetype.dylib
ELF    44322000-443c2000    Deferred        winex11<elf>
  \-PE    44330000-443b6000    \               winex11
PE    443c2000-443d7000    Deferred        libice.6.dylib
PE    443d7000-443e6000    Deferred        libxext.6.dylib
PE    443e6000-444cb000    Deferred        libx11.6.dylib
PE    444cb000-444d4000    Deferred        libxrender.1.dylib
PE    444d4000-444de000    Deferred        libxcursor.1.dylib
ELF    446d3000-446f5000    Deferred        wineosxime<elf>
  \-PE    446e0000-446f1000    \               wineosxime
ELF    45000000-45036000    Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE    45010000-45033000    \               winspool
ELF    45036000-450e1000    Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE    45040000-450de000    \               comdlg32
ELF    450e1000-45156000    Deferred        wineps<elf>
  \-PE    450f0000-4513c000    \               wineps
ELF    45156000-45178000    Deferred        localspl<elf>
  \-PE    45160000-45176000    \               localspl
ELF    45178000-45193000    Deferred        spoolss<elf>
  \-PE    45180000-45191000    \               spoolss
ELF    45193000-451c7000    Deferred        d3d9<elf>
  \-PE    451a0000-451c5000    \               d3d9
ELF    451c7000-452f9000    Deferred        wined3d<elf>
  \-PE    451d0000-452f0000    \               wined3d
PE    452f9000-4536c000    Deferred        libgl.1.dylib
PE    4536c000-45381000    Deferred        libxplugin.1.dylib
PE    45381000-453ac000    Deferred        glrendererfloat
ELF    45404000-45420000    Deferred        dinput8<elf>
  \-PE    45410000-4541e000    \               dinput8
ELF    45475000-454a8000    Deferred        dinput<elf>
  \-PE    45480000-454a4000    \               dinput
ELF    454a8000-454c0000    Deferred        wbemprox<elf>
  \-PE    454b0000-454be000    \               wbemprox
ELF    454c0000-454d6000    Deferred        xinput9_1_0<elf>
  \-PE    454d0000-454d4000    \               xinput9_1_0
ELF    454d6000-454ec000    Deferred        xinput1_3<elf>
  \-PE    454e0000-454ea000    \               xinput1_3
PE    454ec000-454f4000    Deferred        livetype
PE    45667000-4580c000    Deferred        glengine
PE    4580c000-45bfd000    Deferred        atiradeonx2000gldriver
ELF    4613f000-46156000    Deferred        wtsapi32<elf>
  \-PE    46150000-46154000    \               wtsapi32
PE    46156000-4615f000    Deferred        audioipcplugin
PE    4615f000-46165000    Deferred        iobluetoothscoaudiodriverplugin
PE    46165000-46170000    Deferred        applehdahalplugin
ELF    46178000-4618f000    Deferred        midimap<elf>
  \-PE    46180000-4618d000    \               midimap
ELF    46390000-463b6000    Stabs           winecoreaudio<elf>
  \-PE    463a0000-463b3000    \               winecoreaudio
ELF    463b6000-463d0000    Stabs           msacm32<elf>
  \-PE    463c0000-463ce000    \               msacm32
ELF    463d0000-463f6000    Stabs           msacm32<elf>
  \-PE    463e0000-463f4000    \               msacm32
PE    46792000-46803000    Deferred        coremidi
ELF    46d13000-46da6000    Deferred        crypt32<elf>
  \-PE    46d20000-46d9d000    \               crypt32
PE    50000000-5006d000    Deferred        granny2
PE    60000000-60058000    Deferred        ijl15
ELF    7b800000-7b936000    Deferred        kernel32<elf>
  \-PE    7b810000-7b92b000    \               kernel32
ELF    7bc00000-7bcad000    Stabs           ntdll<elf>
  \-PE    7bc10000-7bc8e000    \               ntdll
PE    7c340000-7c396000    Deferred        msvcr71
PE    90003000-9004e000    Deferred        libvdsp.dylib
PE    900c9000-90102000    Deferred        libglimage.dylib
PE    90152000-9015a000    Deferred        applicationservices
PE    9033a000-9038e000    Deferred        libtiff.dylib
PE    9033a000-9038e000    Deferred        libtiff.dylib
PE    904c6000-904d6000    Deferred        libkxld.dylib
PE    905dd000-90655000    Deferred        libvmisc.dylib
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PE    908ba000-90d1e000    Deferred        hitoolbox
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PE    90bf5000-90c14000    Deferred        multitouchsupport
PE    90bf5000-90c14000    Deferred        multitouchsupport
PE    90c24000-90d0f000    Deferred        vimage
PE    90ebb000-90f0c000    Deferred        libglu.dylib
PE    90ebb000-90f0c000    Deferred        libglu.dylib
PE    90eff000-90fc1000    Deferred        ats
PE    90fa6000-90fb2000    Deferred        iosurface
PE    911d3000-911e2000    Deferred        print
PE    91407000-91744000    Deferred        security
PE    916a1000-91833000    Deferred        audiotoolbox
PE    917ce000-917d6000    Deferred        libcorevmclient.dylib
PE    9187d000-9193e000    Deferred        libobjc.a.dylib
PE    9192b000-91954000    Deferred        cfopendirectory
PE    91a4b000-91ac6000    Deferred        hiservices
PE    91aef000-91b2c000    Deferred        dictionaryservices
PE    91b16000-91f4c000    Deferred        quartzcore
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PE    91e7e000-91fa3000    Deferred        libxml2.2.dylib
PE    91f80000-92058000    Deferred        ink
PE    921d5000-921e9000    Deferred        libcsync.a.dylib
PE    922d9000-92385000    Deferred        coreaudio
PE    92354000-92371000    Deferred        libbsm.0.dylib
PE    92369000-92372000    Deferred        libgfxshared.dylib
PE    92398000-92403000    Deferred        metadata
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PE    92460000-924da000    Deferred        iokit
PE    924bc000-92575000    Deferred        securityfoundation
PE    92592000-925f5000    Deferred        coreui
PE    92592000-925f5000    Deferred        coreui
PE    92592000-925f5000    Deferred        coreui
PE    926f7000-92721000    Deferred        opencl
PE    92727000-927fc000    Deferred        qd
PE    927d0000-92805000    Deferred        corevideo
PE    927ef000-927f5000    Deferred        audiounit
PE    9281d000-92820000    Deferred        veclib
PE    92852000-92877000    Deferred        libexpat.1.dylib
PE    928ba000-928ed000    Deferred        libxslt.1.dylib
PE    92a4d000-92a60000    Deferred        libz.1.dylib
PE    92a5c000-92a6f000    Deferred        diskarbitration
PE    92a66000-92e0b000    Deferred        quicktime
PE    92a66000-92e0b000    Deferred        quicktime
PE    92a66000-92e0b000    Deferred        quicktime
PE    92f0b000-934c6000    Deferred        liblapack.dylib
PE    92f0b000-934c6000    Deferred        liblapack.dylib
PE    92f0b000-934c6000    Deferred        liblapack.dylib
PE    93341000-9334e000    Deferred        opendirectory
PE    93885000-938af000    Deferred        libresolv.9.dylib
PE    93979000-9398f000    Deferred        netfs
PE    93997000-939fe000    Deferred        familycontrols
PE    93997000-939fe000    Deferred        familycontrols
PE    93997000-939fe000    Deferred        familycontrols
PE    93ae0000-93b97000    Deferred        kerberos
PE    93b79000-93d0b000    Deferred        coredata
PE    94013000-940ef000    Deferred        launchservices
PE    941ba000-942a1000    Deferred        colorsync
PE    941ba000-942a1000    Deferred        colorsync
PE    9426b000-94285000    Deferred        libgl.dylib
PE    9428d000-944a3000    Stabs           imageio
PE    945f0000-946a4000    Deferred        searchkit
PE    946b3000-946c9000    Deferred        opengl
PE    94704000-94730000    Deferred        directoryservice
PE    94704000-94730000    Deferred        directoryservice
PE    94b8b000-94b91000    Deferred        libradiance.dylib
PE    94cc6000-94d11000    Deferred        ae
PE    951b8000-9554c000    Deferred        carboncore
PE    951b8000-9554c000    Deferred        carboncore
PE    95661000-956e7000    Deferred        htmlrendering
PE    957dd000-9589c000    Deferred        iobluetooth
PE    957dd000-9589c000    Deferred        iobluetooth
PE    958c3000-958d5000    Deferred        carbonsound
PE    958ce000-958d2000    Deferred        liblangid.dylib
PE    95aab000-95ab3000    Deferred        coreservices
PE    95aac000-95b71000    Deferred        printcore
PE    95aac000-95b71000    Deferred        printcore
PE    96397000-964c0000    Deferred        osservices
PE    96504000-9662a000    Deferred        desktopservicespriv
PE    96be3000-9749a000    Deferred        coregraphics
PE    96be3000-9749a000    Deferred        coregraphics
PE    96be3000-9749a000    Deferred        coregraphics
PE    974aa000-975b7000    Deferred        cfnetwork
PE    9776f000-97aee000    Deferred        foundation
PE    979e0000-97a79000    Deferred        coretext
PE    97a42000-97aab000    Deferred        passwordserver
PE    97a42000-97aab000    Deferred        passwordserver
PE    97b0f000-97c3a000    Deferred        libglprogrammability.dylib
PE    97c96000-97cb4000    Deferred        langanalysis
PE    97cef000-97e35000    Deferred        libfontparser.dylib
PE    97dba000-98b32000    Deferred        appkit
PE    97dba000-98b32000    Deferred        appkit
Threads:

process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 winewrapper.exe
    00000009    0
0000000c winewrapper.exe
    0000000d    0
0000000e services.exe
    0000002a    0
    00000029    0
    0000001d    0
    00000016    0
    00000015    0
    00000010    0
    0000000f    0
00000018 winedevice.exe
    0000001f    0
    0000001e    0
    0000001c    0
    00000019    0
00000020 sendwndcmd.exe
    00000021    0
00000022 explorer.exe
    00000023    0
00000024 pylotro.exe
    00000027    0
    00000025    0
0000002b (D) C:\Program Files\Turbine\DDO Unlimited\dndclient.exe
    0000003d    0
    0000003c    0
    0000003b    0
    0000003a    0
    00000039    0
    00000038    0
    00000037    0
    00000036    0
    00000035   15
    00000034    0
    00000033    0 <==
    00000032    0
    00000031    0
    00000030    0
    0000002f    0
    0000002e    0
    0000002d    0
    0000002c    0
Backtrace:
=>0 0x463ecdf6 acmStreamConvert+0x1c3() in msacm32 (0x048dea08)
  1 0x463c8788 in msacm32 (+0x8787) (0x048dea88)
  2 0x4075dad7 DriverCallback+0x224() in winmm (0x048deb08)
  3 0x463a2d69 CoreAudio_woAudioUnitIOProc+0x357() in winecoreaudio (0x048deb68)
  4 0x463a2f56 CoreAudio_woAudioUnitIOProc+0x544() in winecoreaudio (0x048deba8)
  5 0x9210692c __CFMessagePortPerform+0x21b() in corefoundation (0x048dec18)
  6 0x9207216b in corefoundation (+0x3e16a) (0x048df548)
  7 0x920700f4 CFRunLoopRunSpecific+0x1c3() in corefoundation (0x048df608)
  8 0x92076034 CFRunLoopRun+0x53() in corefoundation (0x048df658)
  9 0x463a21ad in winecoreaudio (+0x21ac) (0x048df698)
  10 0x7bc5e46c call_thread_func+0xb() in ntdll (0x048df6b8)
  11 0x7bc5f084 call_thread_entry_point+0x78() in ntdll (0x048df738)
  12 0x7bc65f60 NtAlertThread+0x149() in ntdll (0x048dff88)
  13 0x94478a19 in imageio (+0x1eba18) (0x048dffc8)
  14 0x9447889e in imageio (+0x1eb89d) (0x048dffec)

*** Finished ***

You don't seem to have gotten it right. That backtrace still shows that the winecoreaudio driver is loaded and being used. Make sure you spelled it right.

Also, others have reported this problem with CrossOver Games 9, but they noted that DDO works with earlier versions of CrossOver Games (e.g. 8.1.4). That may just be simpler, plus it wouldn't disable sound. Have you tried that?

Ken...Thanks for your help with this.... I copied (winecoreaudio.drv) from the way you spelled it from your previous post, added to the libraries and disabled it as instructed.....

My next question would be .... How can I have two versions of Crossover Games running? 9.0 works well with Star Trek Online (except some odd graphic issues)...and Lord of the Rings works (except for it occasionally dropping to desktop).

Sorry for the long delay in responding.

You can just keep both applications somewhere on your system. It would probably be a good idea to rename them to incorporate the version number in the name, so you can tell them apart easily. (Renaming them shouldn't hurt anything.) You can alternate running one or the other, but you should avoid running both at the same time.

hi jerry, i would just like to verify if i got it right... were you able to make ddo work with cxg 9.0 just by disabling winecoreaudio?

Disabling winecoreaudio does not allow DDO 5 to run. (either with 9.0 or 9.1b3) The game loads up to the point where Audio would begin as the character screen loads. WINE did originally throw an error, but that no longer happens.

Note that there is also an in-game audio chat problem with LOTRO. The Game ranger audio broke with the latest WINE update.
It worked fine with 9.1.b2, but broke in 9.1b3.